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    Re: What Change means.

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: raider13</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NotSoSilentBob</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: raider13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
    but we cant take 4 more years of the past 8. </div></div>

    Bush isn't running. </div></div>

    Thats your problem, you dont see that he pretty much is with Mccain. </div></div>

    I have no problem.
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    Re: What Change means.

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gun control

    Obama said he would:

    "? Uphold the Second Amendment but also keep "AK-47s out of the hands of criminals."</div></div>

    That doesn't jive with his actions and statements during his years in the Illinois senate or US Senate.

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Obama was being misleading when he denied that his handwriting had been on a document endorsing a state ban on the sale and possession of handguns in Illinois. Obama responded, "No, my writing wasn't on that particular questionnaire. As I said, I have never favored an all-out ban on handguns."

    Actually, Obama's writing was on the 1996 document, which was filed when Obama was running for the Illinois state Senate. A Chicago nonprofit, Independent Voters of Illinois, had this question, and Obama took hard line:

    35. Do you support state legislation to:
    a. ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns? Yes.
    b. ban assault weapons? Yes.
    c. mandatory waiting periods and background checks? Yes.</div></div>

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month
    Obama sought moderate gun control measures, such as a 2000 bill he cosponsored to limit handgun purchases to one per month (it did not pass). He voted against letting people violate local weapons bans in cases of self-defense, but also voted in2004 to let retired police officers carry concealed handguns.
    Source: The Improbable Quest, by John K. Wilson, p.148 Oct 30, 2007 </div></div>

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Concealed carry OK for retired police officers
    Obama voted for a bill in the Illinois senate that allowed retired law enforcement officers to carry concealed weapons. If there was any issue on which Obama rarely deviated, it was gun control. He was the most strident candidate when it came to enforcin and expanding gun control laws. So this vote jumped out as inconsistent.

    When I queried him about the vote, he said, "I didn't find that [vote] surprising. I am consistently on record and will continue to be on record as opposing concealed carry. This was a narrow exception in an exceptional circumstance where a retired police officer might find himself vulnerable as a consequence of the work he has previously done--and had been trained extensively in the proper use of firearms."

    It wasn't until a few weeks later that another theory came forward about the uncharacteristic vote. Obama was battling with his GOP opponent to win the endorsement of the Fraternal Order of Police.
    Source: From Promise to Power, by David Mendell, p.250-251 Aug 14, 2007 </div></div>

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions

    * Principles that Obama supports on gun issues:Ban the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons.
    * Increase state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms.
    * Require manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms.

    Source: 1998 IL State Legislative National Political Awareness Test Jul 2, 1998 </div></div>

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    Re: What Change means.

    If Bush = McCain, then Obama = Bin Laden

    My claim is outlandish as yours.
    "Yes, there are two paths you can go by
    But in the long run
    There's still time to change the road you're on."

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